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well, it is only 16,060...
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Hooray_Beer
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so pretty!.gif)
Thursday, March 31, 2005 5:39 AM
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laurusf20
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^haha that was me..i was posting under my bfs name;)
Thursday, March 31, 2005 5:40 AM
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MrSmoooooth
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Oh, that is nice. I dream of the day a man gives me one of those.
Thursday, March 31, 2005 5:40 AM
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JossaLION
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I'd rather have the $16,060. It may not "last forever," but I'll never regret having it. But, to each his own.
Thursday, March 31, 2005 5:45 AM
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razmatazz9
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I just drooled all over my keyboard. Its so nice.
Thursday, March 31, 2005 7:07 AM
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KingPin
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Nice, but I think a princess-cut (square) diamond would look better.
$16k for that ring? Humm...What is the weight/color/clarity? ...just curious because I've seen similar rings that were priced much higher.
My compliments on the design- This is actually similar to what I've always said I would give a girl if I were to ever propose. My plans have always been something like...at least 2.5ct (most likely 3ct+), princess cut, D-F color, and VS1 or better clarity, very good pol/sym, with the stone set in a platinum setting with smaller princess-cut diamonds channel set into the band. For the record, yes I'm into diamonds (as those that know me can attest), and yes the specifics stated above were largely due to the criteria I've heard from females. lol Anyway, simply stated- I like the ring.
Thursday, March 31, 2005 8:06 AM
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HairyBearChaos
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diamond mining is the worst goddamn 'business' in the world
you people have got to be kidding me
i hope my future boyfriend/fianceé/husband doesn't ever buy me a ring with a real diamond on it
Thursday, March 31, 2005 8:20 AM
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DreaGrl
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Wow! I want that!
Thursday, March 31, 2005 8:28 AM
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sxeUSFangel
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i'll just be happy the day i get married. size of the ring doesnt make true love
Thursday, March 31, 2005 8:29 AM
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KingPin
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^^^Whine whine whine
^I agree, the size should not be considered to correspond directly with the quantity of love- unfortunately many women don't realize this. Thus, I agree with you that a large size does not equal true love.
Thursday, March 31, 2005 8:33 AM
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HairyBearChaos
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^^ ilu
materialism is quite the character flaw of most people and that's sad
i'll be happy when the man i love unconditionally loves me unconditionally and expresses that he wants to grow old with me
^ wtf, do you even realize what i was supposedly "whining" about?
[Edited by HairyBearChaos on 3/30/2005 10:34:34 PM. Reason for edit: idlU ... ASSHOLE]
Thursday, March 31, 2005 8:33 AM
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KingPin
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^Well said
...and yes, I do realize what you are whining about- the concept of "conflict diamonds" and the way people in Africa (and certain other regions as well) are often injured/die due to land-mines in areas of former conflicts/wars- which incidentally is often the diamond abundant areas. There is quite a movement against buying diamonds from those areas, but the idea of lower priced stones coming from such zones is sure to cloud the view of many in the diamond industry. Overall, I do agree that it is horrible what often happens, but as a society we are much too centered on materialistic possessions to change our buying behavior due to social issues that are continents away from home.
[Edited by KingPin on 3/30/2005 10:49:48 PM. Reason for edit: .]
Thursday, March 31, 2005 8:35 AM
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DonnaU
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i just thought the ring looked pretty...
Thursday, March 31, 2005 8:46 AM
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ericab
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Jesus guys I think the reason she put the ring up was because she thought it was pretty.... not to create a giant debate!
Thursday, March 31, 2005 8:46 AM
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ivyspice
Riverview, FL
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^ Wow, you have no clue. You are a newb and are not allowed to form opinions like that until you have at least gotten a small grasp on the site. Try again.
Thursday, March 31, 2005 8:50 AM
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ivyspice
Riverview, FL
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Oh, and in all honesty. I just want a simple white gold band for my engagement ring. Also, I love the idea of using family rings as wedding rings. Also leaves me money for the honeymoon. I'm just pretty traditional when it comes to that stuff.
Thursday, March 31, 2005 8:52 AM
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HairyBearChaos
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well at least you knew what i was referring to and i don't think it's fair you call it "whining." i was just stating my stance on the whole thing.
kingpin guy, i believe i've pinpointed why i'm "mean" to you on this site and i don't ever really try to be but it just comes out. you're like every other snob i grew up with and have to deal with now.
Thursday, March 31, 2005 8:58 AM
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KingPin
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^^^^ & ^^^^^ I agree with you both, it is a beautiful ring.
I realize you are both somewhat new and so I figured I'd explain much of the behavior on this site before you are shocked: Unfortunately, it is often the case on this site for people to enjoy debating back and forth over such random issues- often it evolves from something totally differing from the original topic such as the idea of how the discussion swerved away from the initial point that it is a beautiful ring. Sadly, people on the site often enjoy debates and controversy and will often say/do whatever they feel is necessary to initiate such a battle. Pay no attention to it all, its mainly just people looking for something to say/complain about. I just figured I'd let you know about it all before you become surprised.
[Edited by KingPin on 3/30/2005 11:01:22 PM. Reason for edit: .]
Thursday, March 31, 2005 9:00 AM
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Sandman
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^^^ Will you stop with the "newb bashing"?
Thursday, March 31, 2005 9:02 AM
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KingPin
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^^^Ok, fair enough- I recognize that it was an opinion. I just assumed that you were going to start a barrage of attacks against me as in the past. I recognize why you are "mean" to me and I understand the point you make about snobbishness, but I really don't intend to act like a snob at all. Although I can see how I might be considered such due to some of my posts, I'm sure that many who have met me in real life can attest that I'm not really snobbish or stuck up, but rather somewhat down to earth- at least I believe myself to me. Anyway, your points are well made and understood. For the record- I don't mean to act like an ass to you on the site, it just seems to happen without intention. hehehe
^I agree
[Edited by KingPin on 3/30/2005 11:14:21 PM. Reason for edit: .]
Thursday, March 31, 2005 9:13 AM
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ivyspice
Riverview, FL
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^^ I've never called out a "newb" before. Deal with it.
Thursday, March 31, 2005 9:34 AM
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KingPin
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^I was not mentioning specifically you, I was just stating noob bashing in general.
Thursday, March 31, 2005 9:41 AM
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ivyspice
Riverview, FL
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Learn proper "^" usage and then get back at me. You will realize I was not referring to your post.
Thursday, March 31, 2005 9:46 AM
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KingPin
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^I realize that you were not directing your comment towards me, but since I agreed with his comment, I figured I'd explain my point prior to being misinterpreted.
Thursday, March 31, 2005 9:50 AM
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ericab
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By the way, I do have a clue as to the reason for her posting the ring because she is my roomate and I was sitting with her when she did it. And it was simply because she thought "it was pretty".
Thursday, March 31, 2005 8:41 PM
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You are a newb and are not allowed to form opinions |
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!
P.S. Nice ring..def not my taste but it's still puuuurty!
Thursday, March 31, 2005 8:57 PM
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GLiNTCH
Tampa, FL
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My dream would be to find someone deservant of a ring like that, not buy such a ring...
Thursday, March 31, 2005 9:26 PM
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SaNToRoGT
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^ Wow, you have no clue. You are a newb and are not allowed to form opinions like that until you have at least gotten a small grasp on the site. Try again. |
Who died and made you queen? You, don't know shit either.....
Thursday, March 31, 2005 9:30 PM
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Sandman
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^^ I've never called out a "newb" before. Deal with it. |
Isn't it just a fantastic time to start, though? Suddenly, you and your cabal feel as if you own the site because of your real-life friendships, which leads you to feel comfortable enough to bash other users because of the lack of posts they have? Isn't it fun to entertain such notions of competence? You could make fun of anything else: you could make fun of their looks, of their ethicality, of their morality, of their manners. Yet, you choose an insignificant would-be description of a meaningless number that only denotes the length of time that a person has been here and how many threads they've posted as an adequate representation of their intelligence, and the value of her opinion.
Let me just tell you something. This is going to be short and crisp, Rachel. I will be damned if an ignorant and morally abrasive trollop like you ever represents the ideal of USFBS for the means of restricting the open opinions of other users because of the length of their stay, and the number of posts they've posted.
Thursday, March 31, 2005 10:39 PM
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Sandman
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Also, to keep formalities in order, the ring looks nice.
However, if the only thing that makes it significant is its worth, and not its originality, then there is something wrong with the entire picture. Personally, I think the ring is drab and ordinary despite its high price.
Thursday, March 31, 2005 10:41 PM
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ivyspice
Riverview, FL
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Thank you, Amber, for simply seeing what I said as it is. I made a funny.
And to Rico, stop over analyzing things. I'm sure there are much better things to be done with your time than friviously typing out this interpretation to what I did.
And yes, I'm just so "ignorant and morally abrasive". You don't know me, and you don't want to get to know me, which is fine with me. These notions that you have of me are nothing near the truth. I spoke the truth. The girl is a newb, and that is all.
Thursday, March 31, 2005 11:45 PM
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Trillian
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quote :
ericab
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Jesus guys I think the reason she put the ring up was because she thought it was pretty.... not to create a giant debate!
3/30/2005 10:46:53 PM
ivyspice
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^ Wow, you have no clue. You are a newb and are not allowed to form opinions like that until you have at least gotten a small grasp on the site. Try again. |
Uncalled for. Newblet bashing foul...ten yard penalty.
PS: Rico, stop being an ass. I know you don't like most people. Learn to live with it. GOSH.
Thursday, March 31, 2005 11:50 PM
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Sandman
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You're wrong, Melissa.
I LOVE people. Hoo hoo hoo. Furthermore, for all their misgivings, I think I do an adequate job at keeping my mouth quiet: sometimes, it's sooo difficult.
Friday, April 1, 2005 12:01 AM
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Trillian
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lol it's not your job to point out other's misgivings...that just causes fights. like the..what is it now, like three? arguments you're currently engaged in all across the boards.
Friday, April 1, 2005 12:16 AM
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usfbullshit56
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whats all the commenting about? its a damn diamond ring.
Friday, April 1, 2005 12:18 AM
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usfbullshit56
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fuckin double posts..
[Edited by usfbullshit56 on 3/31/2005 2:19:38 PM. Reason for edit: l]
Friday, April 1, 2005 12:19 AM
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Trillian
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WE R MAKING DARMA OK GOSH
Friday, April 1, 2005 12:20 AM
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Melanie_Marie21
Tampa, New York
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I love the ring as well. Kingpin- you are right, it would be uniform to put a princess cut in the center... Or with this ring, rounds or baggett diamonds on the side.
16 grand isn't much if you are looking for over two carats, heck that isnt that much for 1.50. The normal average for a diamond of a single carat (standard size) is around 7-10 thousand. Thats assuming its not a princess or Emrald cut, and that it's within the average color/clarity range (H-I/SI1-SI2).
So if you were looking for a crazy 3 carat ( I wouldn't suggest even IF you had the money- it would be assumed fake because of its size) You are looking around 30 grand, thats just off the bat for the diamond alone..
Pretty crazy stuff.
Here is my idea for my ring, either in white or yellow gold(the stone is a bit too small, because i couldnt get it to go larger, but you get the idea)
[Edited by Melanie_Marie21 on 3/31/2005 3:25:36 PM. Reason for edit: add pic]
Friday, April 1, 2005 1:04 AM
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SaNToRoGT
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quote :
Isn't it just a fantastic time to start, though? Suddenly, you and your cabal feel as if you own the site because of your real-life friendships, which leads you to feel comfortable enough to bash other users because of the lack of posts they have? Isn't it fun to entertain such notions of competence? You could make fun of anything else: you could make fun of their looks, of their ethicality, of their morality, of their manners. Yet, you choose an insignificant would-be description of a meaningless number that only denotes the length of time that a person has been here and how many threads they've posted as an adequate representation of their intelligence, and the value of her opinion.
Let me just tell you something. This is going to be short and crisp, Rachel. I will be damned if an ignorant and morally abrasive trollop like you ever represents the ideal of USFBS for the means of restricting the open opinions of other users because of the length of their stay, and the number of posts they've posted. |
I'm glad I am not the only one who has noticed this shit...
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And yes, I'm just so "ignorant and morally abrasive". You don't know me, and you don't want to get to know me, which is fine with me. These notions that you have of me are nothing near the truth. I spoke the truth. The girl is a newb, and that is all. |
You've had sex with 40 + guys I am pretty sure everybody knows you and what you are capable of....
Friday, April 1, 2005 1:48 AM
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KingPin
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^^Perhaps my wording was confusing, but I agree with you- 16k for that ring is actually pretty cheap. Most of the rings that I've seen like that are much more.
As for what I plan on giving, I realize it will be in the range of 30-50k (already looked into it), but considering that my future wife (someday far down the road) will be wearing it for the rest of her life (ideally), then I'd want it to be something that is really high in "wow" factor.
As the fakeness issue, that really depends on the social circle in which the person is a member. I know a variety of women with engagement rings in the 3ct range (family, friends, etc.) and the question of fakeness is never even considered as it is somewhat common.
I agree with you that the average ring is 7-10k (I once considered giving a 1ct promise ring that was in that range- I know, this is somewhat elaborate for a "promise ring", but that was what she wanted), but must say that I don't like the average color/clarity you state- this is actually one of my pet peeves. I would never give a diamond that low in quality, but thats just me- I'm kinda picky when it comes to diamonds.
I must also say that I can't stand when I hear people bragging about a large carat size and then it turns out to be very low on the color/clarity scale. Quality should always be considered above quantity, but unfortunately, people often are slaves to the carat factor. If someone can't afford a large ring of decent quality, then they should opt for a smaller size with higher quality that is within their price range. It annoys me when I see people with absolute junk of a stone, yet they are bragging that it happens to be high in carat weight. Some people are so ignorant when it comes to diamonds, etc. Grrr...
(Note: I wasn't attacking your position. I was just going off on a bit of a rant regarding my preferences)
[Edited by KingPin on 3/31/2005 4:41:37 PM. Reason for edit: .]
Friday, April 1, 2005 2:37 AM
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 you do realize that could be a nice down payment for a house for you and your wife?!?! 
Friday, April 1, 2005 2:49 AM
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Melanie_Marie21
Tampa, New York
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As for what I plan on giving, I realize it will be in the range of 30-50k (already looked into it), but considering that my future wife (someday far down the road) will be wearing it for the rest of her life (ideally), then I'd want it to be something that is really high in "wow" factor. |
I think I am in love.. lol jk. You dont know how long I have been trying to convince people that the lady of their dreams will be wearing that piece of gold ( or whatever your preference is ) on her finger till death (hopefully). So a few thousand isnt much to spend.. (I study Gemology.. and I sold diamonds for around two years..)
30 thousand is quite an investment.. I think its a little too flashy.. but thats me, (and that is coming from one of the biggest diamond lovers ever!) But if thats what you are willing to pay for, then go for it! Just make sure she doesnt know that BEFORE you date.. or at all until you present her with the ring, then you will get a faint!
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(I once considered giving a 1ct promise ring that was in that range- I know, this is somewhat elaborate for a "promise ring", but that was what she wanted) |
Wow. That is what she wanted!?!?!? For a Promise Ring??????!?!?!Crazy.. I would have broken up with her right on the spot for demanding such a high price to the relationship..
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but must say that I don't like the average color/clarity you state- this is actually one of my pet peeves. I would never give a diamond that low in quality, but thats just me- I'm kinda picky when it comes to diamonds. |
It was no offense to me, seeing that if i had an ideal situation it would be.. VS1, with color no lower than a G, Only going in that range because G is still bright (even though the chart standard ends with colorless at F, G in some circumstances is still considered colorless) and over a carat..
I was just stating the normal, average standard for buyers today..
As far as my standards.. then again,I am not buying myself the ring, so its up to the "future man" to ultimately decide that.
[Edited by Melanie_Marie21 on 3/31/2005 5:07:58 PM. Reason for edit: .]
Friday, April 1, 2005 2:52 AM
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KingPin
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^Well said, I agree with the points you make.
[Edited by KingPin on 3/31/2005 5:19:21 PM. Reason for edit: .]
Friday, April 1, 2005 3:18 AM
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Melanie_Marie21
Tampa, New York
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Why thank you Its what I would like to end up doing for a living (grading stones, mostly diamonds). So it shows.. 
Friday, April 1, 2005 3:24 AM
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Dan3223
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(I once considered giving a 1ct promise ring that was in that range- I know, this is somewhat elaborate for a "promise ring", but that was what she wanted) |
If a girl ever demanded a ring like that (or anything that high in value)..... I think I would have to send her on her way.
A girl should never expect anything from her guy.....
If he wants to do something nice for her, it should be because HE wants to do it...
Not because she demands or expects it.
Friday, April 1, 2005 3:25 AM
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Melanie_Marie21
Tampa, New York
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[Edited by Melanie_Marie21 on 3/31/2005 5:30:02 PM. Reason for edit: .]
Friday, April 1, 2005 3:27 AM
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KingPin
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^^Very well said regarding the "demanding" and "expecting" issues.
Although, I must admit- I like to treat a girl like a princess and don't really mind getting them extravagant gifts, etc. What I do dislike is when they start demanding things and don't appreciate what is done for them.
[Edited by KingPin on 3/31/2005 5:42:10 PM. Reason for edit: .]
Friday, April 1, 2005 3:27 AM
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Melanie_Marie21
Tampa, New York
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^Thats good. Because no matter how big the gift, they should always be grateful that they have someone who spoils them, even if its with things that arent huge. Never take anything for granted!
Friday, April 1, 2005 3:44 AM
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KingPin
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^It is so refreshing to hear a girl say this!
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