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Cire19
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k.
Monday, October 18, 2004 11:22 PM
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thetrippysmurf
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How can you oppress something that has no free will of its own?
[Edited by thetrippysmurf on 10/18/2004 2:30:43 PM. Reason for edit: .]
Tuesday, October 19, 2004 12:30 AM
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HairyBearChaos
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how does one oppress a parasite?
Tuesday, October 19, 2004 1:48 AM
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nathansym
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like this?
Tuesday, October 19, 2004 1:59 AM
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usfcheer77
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omg, that can make someone cry! 
Tuesday, October 19, 2004 2:02 AM
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diclophis
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In some cultures baby fetus is a delicacy.
Tuesday, October 19, 2004 2:24 AM
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Lysander
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I'm hungry...
Tuesday, October 19, 2004 2:24 AM
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HairyBearChaos
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why hallo propaganda
Tuesday, October 19, 2004 2:26 AM
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Trillian
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Nathan, pretend for a minute you are a young woman. Say 16, 17, or 18. You had sex with your boyfriend. Let's say the condom broke and you got pregnant.
Your parents are looking forward to you going to a great college and doing better than they did, and you have a bright future ahead of you. You cannot disappoint them.
Your boyfriend is terrified, saying he can't handle this and breaks up with you. You are now alone.
You go to Planned Parenthood, maybe you can put the child up for adoption? No, your parents and everyone you know would see you pregnant, then not seeing a child anywhere. Shameful to your whole family.
Maybe this isn't the best logic in the world, but remember you are a scared, lonely, pregnant teenager with your future at stake.
You decide to abort. It seems the only way out.
You get shit from protesters as you go to Planned Parenthood. You come out with people yelling at you like you're a murderer, when in fact all you are is a desperate teen.
So how about, Nathan, you worry about the well-being of the human beings alive on this planet, this girl who will later attempt suicide, instead of a 12-week old fetus that is not aware of its own existance yet?
Tuesday, October 19, 2004 3:33 AM
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nathansym
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You do realize that I believe abortion is murder and none of what you just said condones murder, right?
Also, suicide is a sin ... punishable by death.
Tuesday, October 19, 2004 6:13 AM
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thetrippysmurf
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So if a woman has a miscarriage, she should be killed for sins her body committed against the fetus?
Tuesday, October 19, 2004 6:24 AM
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nathansym
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Please tell me you arent so stupid you can't tell the difference between a miscarraige and an abortion.
Tuesday, October 19, 2004 6:37 AM
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thetrippysmurf
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Please tell me you aren't so stupid you can't tell the difference between an actual human and what may become human.
Tuesday, October 19, 2004 6:48 AM
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Trillian
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People blinded by ridiculous ideals taught by Christians gives the religion a bad name.
[Edited by Trillian on 10/18/2004 9:01:17 PM. Reason for edit: .]
Tuesday, October 19, 2004 7:00 AM
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Trillian
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By the way Nathan, that was a true story. Told to me by my counseler at Lake Aurora Christian Camp.
Tuesday, October 19, 2004 7:02 AM
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nathansym
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yeah i figured it was true and you were waiting to say that it was
good one michael ... its like you used what i said against me!
but in a completely and utterly wrong way!
Tuesday, October 19, 2004 7:17 AM
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gschwaid
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killing things is cool
Tuesday, October 19, 2004 8:33 AM
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Seth Angelus
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Tuesday, October 19, 2004 8:41 AM
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HairyBearChaos
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i've yet to be convinced about why i should consider a fetus an actual baby and a parasite that, if unwanted, i shouldn't have to have.
Tuesday, October 19, 2004 9:08 AM
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MTECougar2002
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It is sad that there are people so irresponsible that abortion is even an issue. But there always will be, and it's something that will never be under control. The only circumstance in which partial fault does not fall onto the mother in such a case...is rape. Even so, there is no excuse for the destruction of life once it has begun. This has nothing to do with religion which is another fucked up matter all together. This is simply a mere opinion, as is 99% of everything else in life.
Tuesday, October 19, 2004 9:37 AM
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nathansym
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I agree MTE.
Jess ... because a human feeds off another human, which makes it technically a parasite, it is not a life?
Tuesday, October 19, 2004 9:42 AM
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HairyBearChaos
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and what if the child has little time to live after being born? why subject a child to that?
what if the mother's predicted to die in childbirth?
for every legislation, there will be an underground opposition to it. if abortion is ruled illegal and can no longer be performed in the u.s., there will always be back-alley abortions, "accidents," and the such.
Tuesday, October 19, 2004 9:49 AM
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nathansym
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there were back alley abortions before Roe v Wade
and a lot of murders are committed in allies too.
Tuesday, October 19, 2004 9:51 AM
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HairyBearChaos
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i'm not saying i'm right, but that's how i see it. it's obviously highly subjective and a highly charged subject...
as taken from dictionary.com --
parasite
1. Biology. An organism that grows, feeds, and is sheltered on or in a different organism while contributing nothing to the survival of its host.
Tuesday, October 19, 2004 9:53 AM
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nathansym
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quote :
Jess ... because a human feeds off another human, which makes it technically a parasite, it is not a life? |
Tuesday, October 19, 2004 9:56 AM
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HairyBearChaos
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quote :
i'm not saying i'm right, but that's how i see it. it's obviously highly subjective and a highly charged subject... |
Tuesday, October 19, 2004 10:02 AM
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Justferfun
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Tuesday, October 19, 2004 10:05 AM
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nathansym
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i got that part ... i just dont get why you quoted the definition of parasite ...
Tuesday, October 19, 2004 10:05 AM
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buhdungadung
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Abortion is needed, but as with everything else, it shouldnt be abused. I have heard stories about girls having abortion upon abortion upon abortion. THAT made me sick.
Tuesday, October 19, 2004 10:18 AM
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burnsinat0r
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 Tug on my heart strings a little more.
Tuesday, October 19, 2004 1:08 PM
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AfroWanksta
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as soon as the baby is old enough to crawl, it's old enough to pay you back in manual labor
Tuesday, October 19, 2004 1:24 PM
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nathansym
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Abortion is not needed.
Tuesday, October 19, 2004 6:49 PM
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buhdungadung
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you get raped and pregnant and then tell me it is not good to at least have as an option.
Im not saying it is the best thing in the world, but open your mind a little and be empathetic enough to at least understand why some people think it is a necessity.
Tuesday, October 19, 2004 8:25 PM
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thetrippysmurf
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quote :
Abortion is not needed. |
Actually a larger human populace is not needed. We don't need to placed on breeding programs.
Now don't get me wrong. I do not agree to abortion during the second, and especially the third trimester. I feel if you have an abortion by that moment in time, and it is not due to health issues in which the mother could die, then the person is clearly a fool for waiting that long to do the process.
Of course you may shoot back abortion at any time is wrong since it is death. Which in turn, I will counter with "When is new life considered a new life? When the sperm reaches the egg? When it is 2 cells? If 2 cells is considered life, than every time you have masturbated, you had killed off whole civilizations."
In conclusion, late trimester abortions bad, 1st trimester abortions when it it can't even be considered a human being, Okay!
Tuesday, October 19, 2004 9:17 PM
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nathansym
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If you get raped you should have the child.
Breeding programs?
what are you talking about Miachael?
Not murdering a child is a breeding program?
Tuesday, October 19, 2004 9:26 PM
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pirateshark9
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my opinion: if i was raped and got pregnant, i would still have the baby, its still a human being from conception. (u can't tell me that picture of the aborted baby is not human)
if i was 15 and got pregnant, and the boy left me, and my parents freaked out, i would still have it, its still a human being.
think about it: what if these situations were your mother-you would not be here right now.
Tuesday, October 19, 2004 9:31 PM
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nathansym
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and that is what this picture says =]
Tuesday, October 19, 2004 9:33 PM
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pirateshark9
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go that nathan. just wanted to restate it, cause thats the way i have always felt. and now u have atleast one person that thinks the same way you do.
Tuesday, October 19, 2004 9:40 PM
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Grandmaster_Z
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we need more abortions
Tuesday, October 19, 2004 9:43 PM
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burnsinat0r
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quote :
If you get raped you should have the child. |
Oh christ...
that's some severe dogma right there.
Tuesday, October 19, 2004 9:44 PM
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nathansym
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It is the belief that abortion is murder.
So if you think that (abortion is murder) is dogma, then I agree.
Why kill the only 100% without a doubt innocent party.
Tuesday, October 19, 2004 9:54 PM
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burnsinat0r
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Why suffer for 9 months with a child that only reminds you of being RAPED?
Tuesday, October 19, 2004 10:04 PM
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TenaciousD
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Just take a hanger and pull it out. Case closed.
Tuesday, October 19, 2004 10:22 PM
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nathansym
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Because murder is wrong.
Tuesday, October 19, 2004 10:53 PM
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Trillian
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isn't that above your daily quota of brain action?
Tuesday, October 19, 2004 10:56 PM
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nathansym
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quote :
First off, this is the worst statement someone could make. "Everyone who supports abortion was born". I can make up some more statements. "Everyone who dies was alive at some point" "Everyone who is alive is living" |
wow man ... that's deep
Tuesday, October 19, 2004 11:00 PM
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Trillian
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Do you realize that the child you could've produced in a masturbatory session could've been a doctor or a lawyer or the next MESSIAH!!!???
Tuesday, October 19, 2004 11:05 PM
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nathansym
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First, there is no NEXT Messiah.
Second, point?
Tuesday, October 19, 2004 11:09 PM
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TenaciousD
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Let's say mitch got some girl preg. Do you really want that baby to live life? It could be like 911 x 1000.....91,000.
Tuesday, October 19, 2004 11:09 PM
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