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jewtang610
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are you fucking serious? do you want me to start getting on your fucking case now also? how dare you put a fucking swaztika in a star of david on a jewish flag. what the fuck is wrong with you? you know the other stuff i can just brush off, but you better pray to g-d that i don't see your ass on the street, i will beat the living day lights out of you.
Wednesday, December 14, 2005 12:41 PM
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BoSox84
Brandon, FL
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wow, lol
Wednesday, December 14, 2005 12:41 PM
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laxGregg
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I'M FROM THE STREETS!
Wednesday, December 14, 2005 12:48 PM
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timeconsumerx
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^^^you are hilarious... as if i made this. google "cool flag" and youll see.
[Edited by timeconsumerx on 12/14/2005 3:14:23 AM. Reason for edit: ROGGE POWERSPITZ]
Wednesday, December 14, 2005 1:12 PM
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jessecurry
Tampa, FL
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wow, who knew that symbols related to unverifiable arbitrary beliefs could be such a sore spot with someone?
Wednesday, December 14, 2005 1:36 PM
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jessecurry
Tampa, FL
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BTW
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i will beat the living day lights out of you.
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Bwahahahahahahaa
seriously guy, you won't beat the anything out of anybody. go start fights elsewhere, you really need to get over yourself and you lame ass religion.
Wednesday, December 14, 2005 1:38 PM
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laxGregg
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Looks like I better stop walking the streets.
Wednesday, December 14, 2005 1:59 PM
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timeconsumerx
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i dont care who you are, youve got to admit, it's pretty creative.
Wednesday, December 14, 2005 2:02 PM
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jessecurry
Tampa, FL
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one of my jewish friends was actually thinking of a design like this the other night... he'll be stoked to see this.
Wednesday, December 14, 2005 3:05 PM
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Okrbot23
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^^,^ I like you guys, I really do but I think that the picture is in bad taste, even though you may not have created it you still conciously posted it.
Wednesday, December 14, 2005 4:51 PM
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jessecurry
Tampa, FL
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it may be in bad taste, but I don't really think that it is something that should offend people to the point where I'd take it down. Really I doubt that anyone on the site has any real "stock" in the holocaust.
If there were one person on the site that lived through the holocaust I'd gladly remove the picture, but until that person comes forward I see no need to.
The only people who could be offended by this now would be people who are a slave to their indoctrination, they should learn to think for themselves.
Wednesday, December 14, 2005 5:03 PM
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jessecurry
Tampa, FL
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Oh, since I'm going to sleep I should probably clarify my previous post.
It's obvious that I am not a promoter of nazism or israel, anyone who read my posts can see that.
The only people who I think can be rightfully offended by a picture like this are those jewish people that lived under nazi rule as they would have an unconscious reaction to the image and would have the possibility of bad memories coming back.
Everyone else has no reason to be upset sans what they have been taught. For all we know the holocaust never happened, Hitler never existed, and there was no World War II; signs point to those previous three statements being false, but since we did not experience them we cannot hold them as true in the same way someone who did experience them does.
Getting so upset and offended by something that you have been taught always strikes me as wrong, like jewtang getting so pissed off over his religion, or the fanatical christians wanting to boycott places that say "happy holidays". So when I saw this pic I liked that it would shake people up and take them out of their comfort zones. I think that the notion that it is wrong to be offended is completely stupid and I don't know how it gained such popularity in the US
So once again, if someone here actually lived under nazi control or lived through the holocaust please let me know and I'll remove the photo. Otherwise, get over it.
Wednesday, December 14, 2005 5:11 PM
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OhCheesesRice
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Great.
More of this self-rightious, "let's offend people out of nowhere for no particular reason other than to herald the complexities of Cartesian skepticism."
Hyuck hyuck hyuck.
Wednesday, December 14, 2005 6:01 PM
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mellomel
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blah, blah, blah, blah, blahhhh.
Wednesday, December 14, 2005 7:32 PM
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Aida
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no me gusta!
Wednesday, December 14, 2005 8:00 PM
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EVILniNjA
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The swastika was a religious symbol througout history... It only gained a negative connotation after it's meaning was subverted by the National Socialist German Workers Party (NSDAP). The one superimposed on this flag is not the same swastika used by the germans in WWII.
Wednesday, December 14, 2005 9:07 PM
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timeconsumerx
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^true.
Wednesday, December 14, 2005 9:29 PM
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ivyspice
Riverview, FL
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haha, I like this pic. My Jewish friend who's part of Clearwater PD thought it was funny, too. It's just a joke, don't go getting all rowdy, geez.
Wednesday, December 14, 2005 9:40 PM
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CaraH
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Swatikas are still illegal to display in Germany.
That in mind, I'm off to take my German Film exam.
Wednesday, December 14, 2005 10:12 PM
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hopeEXPLOSION
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Anyone can feel offended if they want. There's not right or wrong situation where one is rightfully offended.
Though my family is Jewish, I really don't consider myself to be, but I can see why someone would be offended by this picture. The star of david is a sacred symbol and for it to be defaced like this could be, understandably, appalling to someone who takes pride in their religion. And even though the swastika didn't have a negative connotation until WWII, most people now see it as a negative symbol and relate the two when they see it.
Saying that the Holocaust never happened is the most absurd statement I've ever heard. No none of us experienced it, clearly, but my great-grandmother did and I've been to various other speakings of Holocaust survivors. Don't ever tell me that such an abomination in history never really occurred. That is what offends me and not because my family is Jewish, but because it is such an ignorant statement.
Thursday, December 15, 2005 12:19 AM
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jessecurry
Tampa, FL
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please reread my statement before getting upset.
Thursday, December 15, 2005 1:32 AM
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hopeEXPLOSION
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I'm not really upset. You can say whatever you want. I understand that you put it up to get a reaction out of people and I love that, but I really disagree with this statement.
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The only people who I think can be rightfully offended by a picture like this are those jewish people that lived under nazi rule as they would have an unconscious reaction to the image and would have the possibility of bad memories coming back. |
and this
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Everyone else has no reason to be upset sans what they have been taught. For all we know the holocaust never happened, Hitler never existed, and there was no World War II; signs point to those previous three statements being false, but since we did not experience them we cannot hold them as true in the same way someone who did experience them does. |
As I said, noone on this site experienced it first hand, but to deny that it happened is incredibly asinine. Not that you, specifically, are denying it. Saying that the Holocaust never happened is like saying that the entire war never happened.
Thursday, December 15, 2005 3:56 AM
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laxGregg
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Holocaust denial is dangerous, plus, illegal to "minimize" the crimes, involvement and effects in many parts of Europe.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051214/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iran_holocaust
[Edited by CrazyPills69 on 12/14/2005 6:03:18 PM. Reason for edit: ...]
Thursday, December 15, 2005 4:02 AM
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jewtang610
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i get offended only because i am into reading up on the holocaust and learning about it. i planned holocaust week last year at Hillel and am planning this years one as well, as most likely i will next years. to me the holocaust is something i don't take lightly to. anything related to it and somebody mocking it like you are here offends me. i personally thank g-d didn't have any family over there, but that doesn't matter. i care because if people's stories who were in the holocaust aren't told, then when all the survivors are gone, nobody will be around to say what really happened. its important to hear stories from survivors. something like this is putting down those who survived, and its like a slap in the face to them. to say that nobody can get offended by it unless they were there is absurd, nobody on this site was alive then, its a matter of principle and having enough common sense not to post something like this. i'm sorry this is something that is inexcusable and this site will be reported to the proper authorities for allowing this kind of stuff to be posted on its site.
[Edited by jewtang610 on 12/14/2005 7:31:45 PM. Reason for edit: .]
Thursday, December 15, 2005 5:25 AM
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jessecurry
Tampa, FL
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Great.
More of this self-rightious, "let's offend people out of nowhere for no particular reason other than to herald the complexities of Cartesian skepticism." |
It originally came about to piss off jewtang because he is so easily offended and I like to watch his internet pissing matches, I was actually going to take it down after I got back from school this morning because I don't like it as much as some of my other avatars, but since jewtang is now threatening to "report this site to the proper authorities" I think that I will leave it up because I'd like to see what authorities are going to attack free speech.
Thursday, December 15, 2005 6:33 AM
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BoSox84
Brandon, FL
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^^
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This site is not affiliated with the University of South Florida. USFBullshit.com is not responsible or liable for any information or files posted on this web forum. Please remember you are responsible for the content of your message. Information posted on this site does not represent the views of the University of South Florida. All logos and trademarks in this site are property of USFBullshit.com or their originator and may not be used elsewhere without the explicit written permission from Alan Ashton Samet.
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It's written in the disclaimer
Thursday, December 15, 2005 6:36 AM
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sweetlilmissa
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Yes, but don't be surprised when someone gets offended.
Thursday, December 15, 2005 6:43 AM
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jessecurry
Tampa, FL
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That's fine if people want to be offended, but they have no reason to get offended other than what they've been taught.
What if you had been taught to be offended by the color yellow? If I posted a picture that was just all yellow and you got offended should I take it down?
I would find it different if when you were a child you were locked in an all yellow room and tortured, because then the yellow has real meaning to you, but if it is just because of what you were told growing up then I really don't care if it bothers you.
Thursday, December 15, 2005 6:56 AM
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laxGregg
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Jesus loves us all, remember that. Merry Christmas.
<3 Jewtang.
Thursday, December 15, 2005 6:57 AM
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hopeEXPLOSION
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^^It's not just about what you learned growing up, though. Jewtang obviously has alot of pride and love for his religion and does not like to see a symbol that has so much meaning to him be disrespected.
Thursday, December 15, 2005 8:55 AM
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Justferfun
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he has blind acceptance to his religion, it must be broken, we as human beings must open his eyes!
[Edited by Justferfun on 12/14/2005 11:59:42 PM. Reason for edit: demon be gone!]
Thursday, December 15, 2005 9:59 AM
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timeconsumerx
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there is no chosen one
Thursday, December 15, 2005 10:48 AM
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ATLDrtybird7
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what if someone were to post a hammer and sycle? (sp?) you know, stalin mass murdered jews too... we just kept it hush hush because they were are allies... but in fact, he not only murdered them in gulags but als shipped a lot of them to box cars to death camps (concentration camps are totally different from death camps-- just an fyi) but would jewtang had a fit if someone posted a soviet flag? probably not. i find it fascinating that this reaction only is displayed toward the swastika and nothing else, as if Nazi Germany was the only country ever to persecute jews... Until you are educated you dont have the right to complain. And for the record, I am indifferent when it comes to this picture.
Thursday, December 15, 2005 10:49 AM
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jessecurry
Tampa, FL
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Indifferent is how one should be unless this symbol was integral in something that actually caused him personal pain.
You've caught exactly what I was saying. Jewtang and others here have a reaction to the swastika because they were taught to, not because they had any bad encounters with a nazi or nazism. These learned reactions are exactly what precipitates prejudice in society.
Thursday, December 15, 2005 11:01 AM
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jewtang610
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actually i wasn't always into my religion, i only became more involved with it since i started here at usf. i actually was never taught to get mad or have this reaction to the swastika by anybody. i read books on the holocaust, saw movies about it and heard stories from survivors about what they want through. since i started doing this i have formed my own opinion and have grown to hate the swastika. nazi germany gets blamed alot more, because it was so public and the country who actually started using death camps and concentration camps, and the first to start terrorizing the jews during this period. you don't hear much about stalin, because he wasn't anything like hitler. granted i don't know much about stalin, i do know that nobody in this day and age has been worse to the jews than hitler. crazypills69 i never said that, please stop putting words in my mouth. i actually had a girl say have a merry christmas to me today, even though i have a big jewish star that i wear every where i go. stupid lady
Thursday, December 15, 2005 11:48 AM
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sweetlilmissa
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So now we can tell people when can and cannot be offended? You have to have experience with something for you to be "allowed" to be offended? That is the stupidest reasoning I have ever heard. Hurrrr...
The picture was put up and you don't want to be told to take it down, I get that, but be prepared for the backlash you get for your actions...
P.S. I hate the color yellow. I was attacked with yellow crayons and markers when I was a child. My parents made me wear yellow head to toe and drive a yellow car. Please take down any pictures that contain the color yellow in your gallery or I'll run you over with my school bus.
Thursday, December 15, 2005 11:56 AM
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Scoobdoo49
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was the color yellow a symbol for people who killed 6 millon people? I WISH IT WAS AS SIMPLE AS WEARING THE COLOR YELLOW. I FEEL ASHAMED TO BE AT A SCHOOL WHERE PEOPLE WOULD DEFEND SOMEONE DOING SOMETHING STUPID LIKE THIS!@
Thursday, December 15, 2005 12:01 PM
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jessecurry
Tampa, FL
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^^ no, I didn't say that you couldn't be offended, just that if you are I don't care unless you have a real reason to be. And I didn't post this picture.
Thursday, December 15, 2005 12:56 PM
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Alcibiades
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Oh man...that pic is a fucking laugh riot.
Thursday, December 15, 2005 1:32 PM
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Meems
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quote :
are you fucking serious? do you want me to start getting on your fucking case now also? how dare you put a fucking swaztika in a star of david on a jewish flag. what the fuck is wrong with you? you know the other stuff i can just brush off, but you better pray to g-d that i don't see your ass on the street, i will beat the living day lights out of you. |
So you'll say/spell out "fucking", "fuck" and "ass", but not "God"?
And you didn't even FUCKING capitalize the G in God.
....
[Edited by Meems on 12/15/2005 3:43:45 AM. Reason for edit: .]
Thursday, December 15, 2005 1:43 PM
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BoSox84
Brandon, FL
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Lol, I noticed that too
Thursday, December 15, 2005 1:46 PM
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Meems
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That means we're related.
Thursday, December 15, 2005 1:47 PM
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BoSox84
Brandon, FL
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Sweet. Bwn?
Thursday, December 15, 2005 1:52 PM
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Meems
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BACKWOODS BILLY.
Thursday, December 15, 2005 1:53 PM
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BoSox84
Brandon, FL
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For reals yo, that's how I roll 
Thursday, December 15, 2005 1:54 PM
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Alcibiades
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So you'll say/spell out "fucking", "fuck" and "ass", but not "God"?
And you didn't even FUCKING capitalize the G in God. |
Well, to be fair, he didn't capitalize anything in his writing. Also, Jews can't write out God. I figured you wouldn know that.
Thursday, December 15, 2005 2:58 PM
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jessecurry
Tampa, FL
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that's not true!
jews can write out God, but not on anything that might be discarded, that's why you won't see god written anywhere but a holy text.
Thursday, December 15, 2005 3:32 PM
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Seth Angelus
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I like how this went from SHOCK VALUE (GASP!) to philosophy to grammar rules.
Thursday, December 15, 2005 6:27 PM
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jessecurry
Tampa, FL
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that's how the internet works... next we'll see everyone go back to shock value, then some more philosophy, then grammar when we have nothing left to talk about
Thursday, December 15, 2005 6:54 PM
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sweetlilmissa
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It's like a big usfbs sick cycle. I'm down.
Thursday, December 15, 2005 8:02 PM
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